Ask a cop

[Flyte Risk]

I recall several of the things I got away with when I was driving tow trucks so I can see both sides. I would have smiled and said thanks for just a speeding cite for a couple of those. I've also noticed that my CHL tends to get me out of some minor things.

It's all good I guess. Although if I was a cop I'd be tempted to actually try and hope to make the "Dick of the Month" club. And, yes, after I would wear it like a badge of honor. Professional courtesy doesn't mean a warning for 100+ in a 35 but maybe a cite for 49.

[Flyte Risk]

As far as the tickets go I am not going to even say anything since I will get flammed.

I'd like to think that the people who post here shouldn't have to wear their asbestos underoos just to log in. Freedom of thought and opinion and very much respected here. Flaming won't be tolerated so tell us how you really feel. It's how we get to know each other in the digital world.

[Fade]

asbestos underoos.

:haha:

[DFinch]

I understand that, but as BMW guy pointed out, when I see them pull into convenience store or fast food parking lots 100 yards down the road, it makes me wonder. A few bad apples who take advantage of their position can leave a bad taste...

Speaking of which, anyone have an opinion on this:
http://www.copswritingcops.com/dotm/oct2006/index.html


It's possible someone would do that to go to the 7-11, but it's more likely that he was going somewhere, got cancelled, and then pulled in to grab a quick drink, snack, or restroom break before the nagging radio gave him yet another call. We take our breaks at the whim of the radio and sometimes we have to get creative to squeeze them in.

I've had just as many times when I've ordered food, paid for it, gotten a hot call, and had to run out before I got my food. That means no food, and no refund.

[KITTY]

When are we going to play dress up again?? The Mep has some new fur lined handcuffs to try out :smilewink: Yes your very very bad and need to be punished


Well I am dressing up tonight in a tight catwomen suit. Hey Batman, are you going to come get the bad kitty and stop her of her evil ways. :naughty: Meeooww....:whip:

[parallax]

Dear batman,,thnxs for keeping gotham city safe.. When you catch catwoman,, please send pics of her. thank you.:iorun:

[MEP1000]

Well I am dressing up tonight in a tight catwomen suit. Hey Batman, are you going to come get the bad kitty and stop her of her evil ways. :naughty: Meeooww....:whip:


Aw crap. The Mep needs a rain check. :yes: Consider it a late B Day present

[parallax]

good morning,,I wanted to ask,, a while back there was some scuttlebutt about a proposal to make lane splitting legal in oregon(similar to california),,any news on if this became law?..thnxs..jimmy

[MEP1000]

good morning,,I wanted to ask,, a while back there was some scuttlebutt about a proposal to make lane splitting legal in oregon(similar to california),,any news on if this became law?..thnxs..jimmy


Its still not legal to lane split, and not sure exactly were in the process they are as far as making it legal.

[The BMW Guy / R1]

So when can I go for a ride along Mep?

[MEP1000]

now honey

[The BMW Guy / R1]

now honey
Like rite now?

[MEP1000]

Sure if you don't mind riding with a guy at about .20 BAC :haha: We can set it up soon though.The Mep had his account hacked on the now honey response. He will give you one guess who it was. Rymes with broom :haha:

[Zoom]

:blonde2:

[MEP1000]

O look who just happened to post up here

[The BMW Guy / R1]

Sure if you don't mind riding with a guy at about .20 BAC :haha: We can set it up soon though.The Mep had his account hacked on the now honey response. He will give you one guess who it was. Rymes with broom :haha:
Is it ZOOM? What did I win? :bowtie-guy:

[Zoom]

Bored at night and looking at new posts. I so just had to edit myself. Anyways. Broom rhymes with Zoom so I wasn't sure. Ok bye bye.

P.S. Good luck with your guys's second date.:lol: :hysterical:

[MEP1000]

Is it ZOOM? What did I win? :bowtie-guy:


The Mep will see if he can find a used footpeg for you :haha: Yes you were right

[MEP1000]

Bored at night and looking at new posts. I so just had to edit myself. Anyways. Broom rhymes with Zoom so I wasn't sure. Ok bye bye.

P.S. Good luck with your guys's second date.:lol: :hysterical:


Second date huh? The Mep wasn't eating off his popcorn the other night fyi. That was an outing

[The BMW Guy / R1]

O look who happened to just drop in again :yes:
Zoom wont give up she is sitting there like some kind of homeless racoon waiting to come in and steal the popcorn out of your feeding bag:popcorn:

[The BMW Guy / R1]

Watch out Mep there she is

[Zoom]

I'm so gorgeous! It's beautiful. Thank you friend. :)

[The BMW Guy / R1]

I'm so gorgeous! It's beautiful. Thank you friend. :)
You are welcome I knew you would like it:yes:

[MEP1000]

You two are making The Mep sick :haha:

[The BMW Guy / R1]

You two are making The Mep sick :haha:
Like this :vomit:

[MEP1000]

Zoom wont give up she is sitting there like some kind of homeless racoon waiting to come in and steal the popcorn out of your feeding bag:popcorn:


The Mep didn't see ZOOM washing her popcorn before she ate it :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

[MEP1000]

Like this :vomit:

YES

[The BMW Guy / R1]

The Mep didn't see ZOOM washing her popcorn before she ate it :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::h ysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hys terical:

[Zoom]

:idunno: :hysterical:

[The BMW Guy / R1]

If I did somthing like this on 82nd would it be ok Mep?

[MEP1000]

:hysterical: :hysterical: Hell no

[parallax]

hiYa mep...Have you ever had to give someone a maglite shampoo?:bowtie-guy:

[MEP1000]

No, The Mep uses Streamlight flashlights :haha:

["b"]

mep what is the difference between lazer radar and normal?? and what makes lazer better?

[xqsme]

Ok, I got pulled over today on a school zone riding my bike (doing 35 on a 25):yes: . Good news is , I just got a warning:rad: . Now my question is -Do cops know if you have a CHL when they run your plates? I notice that twice now one was about a year ago then today. He asked me again if I was carrying a weapon. I have CHL but barely carry my Hand gun. Just wondering. Looks like if you have CHL and got pulled over, it takes awhile for them to approach you? Last time he even call for back up. Or is just because I'm fugly?.....Mep?

[Flyte Risk]

In your case I'd say because you're asian and you have shifty eyes. You look like the poster child for the Filipino mafia.

In all other instances your drivers license is flagged with a notation or something in the system that you have a CHL. When an officer runs your plate in preparing for a stop the dispatcher will run the license status for the registered owner thats when the notation will show up.

I just hand over my CHL with my DL and paperwork. I keep all my credit cards/ID's in a leather card holder in my left front pocket so I can get it out without reaching anywhere near my pistol. The few odd times that I didn't hand it over or tell the officer that I had one even though I wasn't carryiing the officer asked me 3-5 times if i was carrying (I said no everytime) and then handed me my BS citation for some stupid thing (seat belt, burnt out tail light, etc) I have NEVER recieved a citation while I was carrying.

[Flyte Risk]

mep what is the difference between lazer radar and normal?? and what makes lazer better?

B, Laser isn't radar, it's laser... as in laser beam. The "normal" that you speak of is radar, high frequency sound waves.

Does that explain it enough for you to answer the rest of your question?

Or do I need to explain elementary skool science about the speed of light vs. the speed of sound. I'll include a summary of lasers "pin-point" accuracy and dispersal of soundwaves at no charge.

[xqsme]

In your case I'd say because you're asian and you have shifty eyes. You look like the poster child for the Filipino mafia.

In all other instances your drivers license is flagged with a notation or something in the system that you have a CHL. When an officer runs your plate in preparing for a stop the dispatcher will run the license status for the registered owner thats when the notation will show up.

I just hand over my CHL with my DL and paperwork. I keep all my credit cards/ID's in a leather card holder in my left front pocket so I can get it out without reaching anywhere near my pistol. The few odd times that I didn't hand it over or tell the officer that I had one even though I wasn't carryiing the officer asked me 3-5 times if i was carrying (I said no everytime) and then handed me my BS citation for some stupid thing (seat belt, burnt out tail light, etc) I have NEVER recieved a citation while I was carrying.

Thanks

[Zoom]

Looks like Flyte is MEP's replacement for this thread lol.

[NinjaKitty]

Officer Flyte Risk ?:wow8: :wow8: :hysterical: :hysterical: . Good thing I read this thread ! That made my night ! lol....:clapping:

[TOM-CAT]

Officer Flyte Risk...:clapping:

I was thinking something more like "deputy Mep's b!tc#" :nutkick: :smilewink:

[Nicegy525]

I was thinking something more like "deputy Mep's b!tc#" :nutkick: :smilewink:

more like Sargent Mep's beeyotch! :yes:

[NinjaKitty]

:lol: lol. Then that will make him a higher class biocth...lol...:hysterical: :smilewink: :haha: j/k Flyte..at least I said higher class.

[MEP1000]

Looks like Flyte is MEP's replacement for this thread lol.


More like a temporary stand in :smilewink:

["b"]

B, Laser isn't radar, it's laser... as in laser beam. The "normal" that you speak of is radar, high frequency sound waves.

Does that explain it enough for you to answer the rest of your question?

Or do I need to explain elementary skool science about the speed of light vs. the speed of sound. I'll include a summary of lasers "pin-point" accuracy and dispersal of soundwaves at no charge.
:twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger:

[NinjaKitty]

More like a temporary stand in :smilewink:


:lol: :lol: :crazy: :lol: How many biotches does that make for you now Sarg ??:confused: :thinking: :hysterical: :hysterical:

[MEP1000]

The Mep has lost count :haha:

[NinjaKitty]

The Mep has lost count :haha:




Where the heck have you been hiding ???

[Nicegy525]

so the neighbor a few houses down likes to think the curbside parking spot in front of his townhouse belongs to him.

Anytime someone else takes that spot he'll leave a note on the car, park his big obnoxious truck an inch from the bumper, or even come knock on our door and ask us to move the car...

Anything I can do to shut his stupid face up?

[Mr.Demise]

SURE! Next time he comes over tell him to get the fug away from your door before you call the cops for harasing you. IF there is no sign stating the rules of parking, its fair game. First come first serve.

[MarineHawk]

I like taking timed/dated pictures when my neighbors decide that since my parking space is so empty (because my motorcycle sits there), they can just park halfway into it, as well as their own. Since yours also leaves notes, I would start saving them as well, then if he decides to do something dumb after telling him to "fug off", you can prove that it was him that did it, too.

[NinjaKitty]

Ok. here's a question Mep for yeah. Is it illegal to be taking pictures while driving in Oregon ? I got a warning here the other day. so I was just wondering how it is there...lol..

[NinjaKitty]

I should have known better not to tempt fete. But, out of the clear blue sky here. There was about 10 or 12 motocycle cops riding and went right passed me.

[NinjaKitty]

So I popped out my cellphone and took a video. of course the last cop in the group had to get on the horn saying You're not suppose to be taking pictures while driving.lol..

[NinjaKitty]

I won't do that one here again. Usually you don't see that many in a group. Unless, some foreign diginitary is in town or the Emperor is around. Opportunity right in front of me. I took it...:crazy: :yes: :wave

[NinjaKitty]

I guess if he had more time. He might have pulled me over..lol.

[NinjaKitty]

Funny part was that he did look at me. Then said don't do that again and rode off...lol. All I did was smile and shut the cam off...:yes: :haha: :hysterical:

[MEP1000]

so the neighbor a few houses down likes to think the curbside parking spot in front of his townhouse belongs to him.

Anytime someone else takes that spot he'll leave a note on the car, park his big obnoxious truck an inch from the bumper, or even come knock on our door and ask us to move the car...

Anything I can do to shut his stupid face up?


PUNCH HIM.

[MEP1000]

Ok. here's a question Mep for yeah. Is it illegal to be taking pictures while driving in Oregon ? I got a warning here the other day. so I was just wondering how it is there...lol..


It could lead you to do other things that would cause you to get a ticket but actually taking pictures while driving isn't covered to best of my knowledge. However the traffic geeks would know better

[Skipbo]

Are there increased reports of people in the Portland area getting fuel siphoned from their vehicles..??

[MEP1000]

Are there increased reports of people in the Portland area getting fuel siphoned from their vehicles..??


It happens, however they usually come in as car prowls meaning someone stealing something from a car. ITs not till officer writes report that its known gas is being stolen. Dam tweakers suck

[NinjaKitty]

Yet again..today while going out and about my buisness with a friend. A truck almost run us off our line into the oncoming cars. This is the third time I have encounter this here. Are trucks allowed to take up their line plus ours ?
Whats with that..Makes me not want to drive down MLK anymore.lol..
I know it was a different truck. but good grief What is it with that and what can one do without getting into with the idiots ?

I'm just lucky my friend is a good driver.. Dang..It was going to be my side that was going to get hit !!! Not nice to smash a kitty...MMEEEOOOOOWWWWW.ouch.

[Flyte Risk]

Define truck... pick-up or a BIG truck?

[ordiscokid]

Probaly one of us dam big truck drivers

[NinjaKitty]

Define truck... pick-up or a BIG truck?
18 wheeler.. BIG> compared to a Civic Honda..HUGE..lol..

[Flyte Risk]

In that case you have to look at it as "Might makes right".

In alot of cases in the downtown/lloyd center areas including MLK and several other streets the lanes are only 8' wide and the standard size for trailers nowdays is 8-1/2' wide. While not staying in the lane is against the law technically there are areas where it's physically impossible to be completely in one lane.

And if traffic is giving me a bad time I'll purposly drive in two and let anybody who doesn't like it discuss the matter with my front bumper.

[NinjaKitty]

In that case you have to look at it as "Might makes right".

In alot of cases in the downtown/lloyd center areas including MLK and several other streets the lanes are only 8' wide and the standard size for trailers nowdays is 8-1/2' wide. While not staying in the lane is against the law technically there are areas where it's physically impossible to be completely in one lane.

And if traffic is giving me a bad time I'll purposly drive in two and let anybody who doesn't like it discuss the matter with my front bumper.

:idunno: I guess my next license should be a truck license.lol...:yes: :haha:

[ordiscokid]

Hey whats wrong with a big truck license?

[Flyte Risk]

Who needs a license, just drive!

[NinjaKitty]

Hey whats wrong with a big truck license?


Well, nothing. Its when you get to know me better. You might not want me behind that wheel....:yes:

[ordiscokid]

OIC......one of those...I have been driving a big truck for 10years....thought I may need to be offended...but guess not

[Flyte Risk]

after 14 years all I can say you can't be THAT bad....

Swift Transportation, 'nuff said.

[ordiscokid]

after 14 years all I can say you can't be THAT bad....

Swift Transportation, 'nuff said.


I am sorry I did not know

[Flyte Risk]

I never worked for them, just used them for entertainment

[ordiscokid]

LOL Fair enough.....I am a chemical guy now and spent 7 years in the LTL world I watched 2 swift trucks crash into each outher out on 84 on night...funny as hell one driver was getting passed gave the outher the lights and said passing driver took off the nose of the passed truck....funny as all hell

[NinjaKitty]

OIC......one of those...I have been driving a big truck for 10years....thought I may need to be offended...but guess not

:haha: One of those what ??lol..I mean that I have a tendancy to speed. You would not want to see me coming at you..is what I meant.:haha:

[Mr.Demise]

not so swift drivers LOL
their hiring test involes a mirror and a limb check. if you pass your hired LOL
I almost...feel sorry for those guys.

[kumaclimber]

ok so i am new and don't mean to get off topic but i have a question for the law enforcement officer type person. I currently do not have a bike but my friends do and they are willing to let me ride them. Ok now for the question tey have insurance on the bikes do i need to get my own coverage or will theirs be sufficient?

[Zoom]

I know that if you crash their bike, they aren't covered, and you could get off scott free. I would assume you would need to get your own insurance to cover you, but don't quote me on that.

[Jane Honda]

I never worked for them, just used them for entertainment


What HAVEN'T you used for entertainment?

[Flyte Risk]

Why ya gotta pick on me all of the sudden? Sheesh...

FWIW I haven't used the mailman for entertainment but I am considering an airsoft sniper rifle if the sumbitch keeps delivering my mail to my neighbors.

[Jane Honda]

Because your fun to pick on.


Everyone keeps telling me to pick on someone my own size, so here I go!

[Flyte Risk]

I'm not your size!

If you want a size comparo I look like a tall jr high student.

[Jane Honda]

Ok, so, I guess I need to find someone that weighs at least a buck ten... :haha:

[Nicegy525]

ok so i am new and don't mean to get off topic but i have a question for the law enforcement officer type person. I currently do not have a bike but my friends do and they are willing to let me ride them. Ok now for the question tey have insurance on the bikes do i need to get my own coverage or will theirs be sufficient?


I believe their insurance would cover the loss to their bike however your liability would cover the other person.

This question may be better answered by an insurance agent.

[kumaclimber]

i was more curious if i get pulled over not in the case of an accident

[Zoom]

Well if The Mep decides to log on again soon maybe he'll enlighten us.

[MEP1000]

i was more curious if i get pulled over not in the case of an accident


His insurance would cover the bike. You could be cited for not having insurance though.

[kumaclimber]

DAMN IT so i need to get liability for myself even though i don't have a bike. Right?

[Zoom]

yeah pretty much. If you want to be legal. Sorrys.

[kumaclimber]

i know neons are a sick bird but what about amber accent lighting and one more what about the led based clear frame sliders if they are amber can you wire them as blinkers

[MEP1000]

Can't have lighting when bike is in motion. The frame sliders wouldn't extend far enough to be legal as turn signals.. Lots of parts are sold but truth be told if they aren't stamped DOT then they are all illegal.....

[ordiscokid]

So here is a question for the mep....In Oregon do you have to put a foot down to be a full stop?

I guess down here in NM you dont have to ware a helmet but you have to but both feet down to be a full stop so he got a $250 for not putting hes feet down at a stop and was not sure how oregon is so who better to ask then you?

Thanks

[MarineHawk]

DAMN IT so i need to get liability for myself even though i don't have a bike. Right?

Maybe it's just State Farm and its greatness, but I know for a fact that in Oregon, as long as the vehicle is insured, it does not matter who drives/rides it. They just have to have the owner's/insured person's permission (or else it's theft, duh).

In Washington, you need to have coverage on your own vehicle in order for someone else's insurance to cover you given the same situation. That only works motorcycle->motorcycle, not car->motorcycle however.

[kumaclimber]

i need to call an insurance company

[parallax]

Hello, Hello, is this thing transmitting?.. Hey I got a question for ya mep.. Should I ever get pulled over on my bike, is there anything i can say or do,(attitude,etc.) to keep from getting a ticket and just a warning?., I guess i am asking you to give up some of that secret tribal knowledge dealving into the physiological mind of a law enforcement brain/thought processes...

:popcorn:

[Nicegy525]

If you werent doing anything too inexcusable:

If I see the officer and I know without a doubt he wants to talk to me, I will pull right up to him and stop so he doesnt have to chase me. That alone has gotten me out of at least two tickets.

ALWAYS have a respectful attitude. Yes sir no sir Im sorry, wasnt paying attention etc...

[MarineHawk]

Don't -play- dumb, either. Cops know you know you were speeding, and the whole "I didn't realize it was only 45" doesn't work, unless you actually didn't know, otherwise it's an easy act to see through.

I'd also recommend removing your helmet/gloves once you've stopped. I know this seems like a duh kinda thing, but I've seen so many motorcyclists pulled over who don't until/unless they're instructed. It's moreso just to reassure the cop you're more likely not to run, and it is along the lines of removing your sunglasses to talk to someone (as I see it), a sign of respect.

[MEP1000]

Hello, Hello, is this thing transmitting?.. Hey I got a question for ya mep.. Should I ever get pulled over on my bike, is there anything i can say or do,(attitude,etc.) to keep from getting a ticket and just a warning?., I guess i am asking you to give up some of that secret tribal knowledge dealving into the physiological mind of a law enforcement brain/thought processes...

:popcorn:


Pull over and get off your bike. Take off helmet and gloves and for god's sake have a license and insurance info with ya haha. Honesty really does pay off. Biggest bit of advice is to never ask for a warning. Hate it when people do that. The longer the officer has on the job the greater the chance you will get off, younger officers write everybody... So does the traffic division.

[Nicegy525]

is it a federal offense to restrict someone's access to their own mailbox?

[TOM-CAT]

is it a federal offense to restrict someone's access to their own mailbox?

Define restrict... If you mean can you get in trouble for parking in front of the mailbox with your car, forcing them to get their fat @$$ out and walk, I am quite sure the answer is no. Unless they are driving a postal service delivery vehicle, you are not obligated to move your car, provided that parking in the area in question does not violate other laws (yellow curb, fire hydrant, no parking sign, etc...).

Last I checked, there really isn't anything a postal delivery driver can do either. I remember a case were some home owner would part his car in front of the mail box, so the postal carrier would have to get out and walk around. The home owner then proceed to video tape the postal carrier spit on his car, and turned the tape over as evidence that he was in fact a victim. (FYI: that would be called entrapment, if a leo did it.)

:2cents:
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but that is how I understand it. :thumbup:

[Nicegy525]

No I mean restrict access by not allowing other roommates access to the one and only mailbox key.

OR

Having the mailbox lock changed in order to restrict other roommates from accessing the mailbox.

[MarineHawk]

US Code mostly just covers the destruction, vandalism, etc etc of mailboxes, and carries some rather hefty fines...up to $50,000 fine and 10 years of prison. ****.

Title 18, United States Code, Section 1705

Also, I found some good info here, all backed up by bits of USC (US Code) http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mmailbox.htm

[TOM-CAT]

US Code mostly just covers the destruction, vandalism, etc etc of mailboxes, and carries some rather hefty fines...up to $50,000 fine and 10 years of prison. ****.

Title 18, United States Code, Section 1705

Also, I found some good info here, all backed up by bits of USC (US Code) http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mmailbox.htm

Wow, that was informative. Thank you. :yes:

As for you Nicegy525, I would not hold your roommates mail for ransom or in any way keep them from having access to it. For the simple reason that you could be sued for the costs associated with any unpaid bills that your roommates may receive. I would think that you could go to the post office and file for a change of address. Tell them that you would like any mail intended for you to be put in mailbox number 2. Then install a second keyed mailbox, just for you. I'm not sure on the specifics, but it seems like this would be a legitimate request.

:2cents:

Good luck w/ the roommates. :whipit

[Nicegy525]

its the other way around, I am being denied access to my mailbox cause my roommate thinks the other roommate is tampering with her mail... its retarded I know...

[Flyte Risk]

Just write "Deceased" on their incoming mail and put it in the outgoing.

Last I heard there was no ID required to put a hold on somebody's mail at the post office. Fill out the form and turn it in. The office will hold the mail for months if nobody finds out.

Not that I would advocate either of thsoe two things... that would be wrong and something I would not condone. I'm simply stating that someone could do that.

[Flyte Risk]

If she's interfering with your mail that is a federal offense. Call the postmaster and report the crime, them politely push the issue.

[MarineHawk]

Yeah, exactly what Flyte just said, witholding your mail like that could easily be construed as tampering with/invading/etc, and a call to the Postmaster and/or the police should take care of the issue.

Then again, I've never been one to call in the authorities for stuff, and prefer to talk with someone at least once, face-to-face before resorting to that. Might be worth a try, and you can always let them know the repercussions that exist.

[Nicegy525]

I had the box re-keyed with a new lock and three keys so each of us have our own copy and roommates have been warned that any action taken to prevent anyone from having access will be reported and possible legal action taken.

Im tired of messin around with their petty ****e...

[TOM-CAT]

its the other way around, I am being denied access to my mailbox cause my roommate thinks the other roommate is tampering with her mail... its retarded I know...

Well if your roommate is concerned about the other roommate, she should have no problem getting you a copy of the key*, or giving you the only copy. So you don't have to ask permission.

*The key she has may be labeled "Do Not Duplicate," but most younger workers at Wali-world type hardware stores might not care.

EDIT: I was just a bit late this post. ;)

[Flyte Risk]

and a call to the Postmaster and/or the police should take care of the issue.

LMAO! I can hear that call now...

..... the mean girl isn't letting me play with the mailbox key... Daddy, make her stop right now....

[ordiscokid]

LMAO! I can hear that call now...

..... the mean girl isn't letting me play with the mailbox key... Daddy, make her stop right now....
:haha: :laughing: :lol:

[MarineHawk]

Oi, when I can watch some kid being held at gunpoint on the car for (I heard) tampering with a guys car, I reserve the right to call the Milwaukie PD for just about anything :P Stupid crackheads.

[Flyte Risk]

Why didn't you take the time to introduce yourself to The MEP?

Oh wait, you said Millcocky PD.... Wrong extremely large black man.

[kumaclimber]

ok so what is with the whole touching the car when pulling someone over? I have seen this in all dash cam videos. Why do you do this?

[TOM-CAT]

ok so what is with the whole touching the car when pulling someone over? I have seen this in all dash cam videos. Why do you do this?

I asked a LEO the same question once. He told me he was feeling the car for a few reasons; to feel if there might be some movement in the car that he could not see, also to feel for if the car was running. Lastly, he was leaving his finger prints on the car. So that in the event that the car should flee, they could prove that it was the same car that was pulled over.

[THOE]

So how do you think I should go about defending myself against the ticket I got for my license plate and having slicks on my bike?

[MA$TER_E]

So I have a question for the polices :yes:

So lets say I have this friend and he's interested in these fancy radar detector things you hear about for bikes. Whats the deal with them? I see them in cars everywhere hell I have one in my truck. Now you see them with detector-detector abilities with GPS and the whole bit. My friend has even found these radar jammer gizmo's that I would think would be illegal but I don't know. :eek2: I mean my "friend" doesn't know :yes:

Anyway, what is the down & dirty with the Radar detectors, detector detectors, Jammer's, and the use of them? I get the whole band thing with K, KA, X, Laser, blah blah blah my friend is more curious about the legality/politics of it all :thinking:

[TOM-CAT]

So I have a question for the polices :yes:

So lets say I have this friend and he's interested in these fancy radar detector things you hear about for bikes. Whats the deal with them? I see them in cars everywhere hell I have one in my truck. Now you see them with detector-detector abilities with GPS and the whole bit. My friend has even found these radar jammer gizmo's that I would think would be illegal but I don't know. :eek2: I mean my "friend" doesn't know :yes:

Anyway, what is the down & dirty with the Radar detectors, detector detectors, Jammer's, and the use of them? I get the whole band thing with K, KA, X, Laser, blah blah blah my friend is more curious about the legality/politics of it all :thinking:

Eric, I'm not a LEO, but I do have some info.

Where to start? :thinking:


Detectors:
It sounds like you already know about detectors. So I will only skim over them.
Detectors are legal in Oregon and can be relatively useful. Although, I would only ever use one detector, and that is the Valentine 1, hands down the best radar/laser detector on the market.

Radar Jammers (see note about the "Rocky Mountain" radar jammer*):

Real radar jammers are highly illegal, and relatively ineffective, because most if not all modern police radar will detect the "jamming" interference and alert the LEO that the radar is being jammed. It is against the law to emit any form of radio signal from your vehicle, intended to interfere with police radar. So just don't go there.

*The "Rocky Mountain" radar jammers that are sometimes advertised on the radio and internet sites, are COMPLETELY FAKE. Google "rocky mountain radar scam" to get the details. Just old fashioned snake oil. The line they give about paying for your ticket is a scam. The terms and conditions they try not to mention, are that if you get a ticket for going more than 15% over the posted limit, they won't pay. Well in a 55 15% is only 8.25 MPH. So you would have to get a ticket for less than 63 in a 55, which doesn't happen often. Or a ticket for going 34MPH in a 30MPH zone. SCAM!! :shifty:


Laser Jammers:

Here is where things get interesting. There is no easy way for a legislature to outlaw devices that emit light from a car, that could interfere with police laser equipment. Unless they wanted to outlaw all vehicle lighting, like headlights. So the short answer is that, some laser jammers work, but they are not 100%. Also most laser jammers are designed to deactivate for a predetermined amount of time, after a police laser signal is detected and "jammed." This is to allow the LEO to get a solid reading, after the driver has had enough time to slow down the vehicle to a more reasonable speed. Most quality laser jammers are pretty pricy. Usually they are sold in kits that include, two laser jammer signal emitters for the front of the car, and one single jammer for the rear. The driver receive a visual and audible signal when the unit detects the laser signal from the LEO, it is then up to the driver to take evasive measures to slow down, without being obvious, or causing a collision with other vehicles. Unlike with radar, where a detector can alert to speed patrols up to a mile or more away, laser jammers will only alert to lasers being fired at you. So the officer has already made a judgment about your relative speed. Not likely you will get away with cursing at 110 MPH down I5. :smilewink:

:2cents:


Hope this answers some of your questions, Eric. :thumbup:

[MA$TER_E]

Eric, I'm not a LEO, but I do have some info.
Hope this answers some of your questions, Eric. :thumbup:

Yes it does; thanks :bow: Tom. I did some more searching and found a post that MEP made about detectors and the use of them. He said "You can't get a ticket for having one. However your sh*t better be in order cause you might get one for everything else wrong" Which I believe very much to be true...

I was never really into the idea of a jammer. And you're absolutely right about the scams. I get a kick out of some of the disclosures out there. :haha:

I really like the V1. I was surprised to see that they actually bad mouth the other one I was looking at the SOLO S2... I want the convenience of a cordless but don't want to sacrifice performance... Go figure hu :crazy: I'm not crazy about hard wiring a detector on my bike that will only be there part time... And it's got to have an audio out "headphone jack"... I found an audio module for the V1 but ouch I'm running out of money :crying: $448 is going to be to much money for me to justify it.

I think through all of this though I've decided that I'll hard wire a detector in and try to make it as convenient as possible... I got a quote from a guy yesterday; $300 for the Passport 8500 X50. Seams to be a good detector. Not as nice as the V1 for sure. Yet light years ahead of my Walmart special Cobra I bought like five years ago...

[TOM-CAT]

Yes it does; thanks :bow: Tom. I did some more searching and found a post that MEP made about detectors and the use of them. He said "You can't get a ticket for having one. However your sh*t better be in order cause you might get one for everything else wrong" Which I believe very much to be true...

I was never really into the idea of a jammer. And you're absolutely right about the scams. I get a kick out of some of the disclosures out there. :haha:

I really like the V1. I was surprised to see that they actually bad mouth the other one I was looking at the SOLO S2... I want the convenience of a cordless but don't want to sacrifice performance... Go figure hu :crazy: I'm not crazy about hard wiring a detector on my bike that will only be there part time... And it's got to have an audio out "headphone jack"... I found an audio module for the V1 but ouch I'm running out of money :crying: $448 is going to be to much money for me to justify it.

I think through all of this though I've decided that I'll hard wire a detector in and try to make it as convenient as possible... I got a quote from a guy yesterday; $300 for the Passport 8500 X50. Seams to be a good detector. Not as nice as the V1 for sure. Yet light years ahead of my Walmart special Cobra I bought like five years ago...

Eric, sounds like you are doing your homework and covering your bases. :thumbup: I'm sure that by the end, you will be happy with whatever setup you decide on. :yes:

[Jane Honda]

Where is our resident Police ossifer these days?

[GixxeR 1K]

I have used a V1 for 10 years and I would never use anything else.

[John_D]

So i heard that peeps are getting tickets for them. is this true? im planning on getting the fender kit it says it includes alternative turn signals: thanks in advance

[MarineHawk]

As far as integrated tail lights, I was pretty sure (when I had it done) that its legal in Oregon. However, I know it isn't that way in all states. Fender eliminators just get people into trouble because they typically angle the plate to much and cops ding you on the unreadability of it straight on yadda yadda.

[Flyte Risk]

Federal law requires (as well as most states including OR) that the turn signals be a specific distance away from the center of the tail light. I think it's 4 or 5 inches. That requirement effectively makes integrated signals illegal.

[John_D]

i just ordered the fender eliminator kit from Competetion werkes.(actually EDR) Sku#1k607ltd. i guess ill hold of on the tail lights thanks guys