Things you get tickets for

[MEP1000]

Ok I was asked to come up with a list of things some of us may be tempted to do with our bikes that could lead to tickets. While I'm more into crimes than traffic I can think of a few things. I hope this helps..

1.You need a license plate light
2.No Neon colors below your bike or around license plate bracket
3.You must have mirrors, so no block off plates
4.No racing slicks for street riding
5.License plate must be clearly visible and clean
6.Do I really need to list speeding, wheelies, and stoppies :naughty:

I know list is small. Feel free to ad to it.. If I think of anymore I'll add them. Feel free to post a question or PM me. I always try to get back to people as fast as I can..

[v8zman]

the neon?

i was told u can have it on as long as u not moving

was i misinformed?

[Jane Honda]

Hope this sparks some good discussion, (hopefully not too much postwhoring) so that we might be a little less likely to get into troubble. It just bothers me that so many products are sold so readily in auto parts stores to "Pimp Out" our rides, and are also absolutely illegal.

[MEP1000]

the neon?

i was told u can have it on as long as u not moving

was i misinformed?

Yes you are correct I'm sorry. Can't have them while in motion

[Waterboy]

flush mount blinkers?

[xqsme]

plates with clear covers?

[MEP1000]

flush mount blinkers?

plates with clear covers?

Flush mount blinkers are ok to a point. Problem being is that they have to be visible to a car facing you for something like 200 yards. Never really heard of someone being written up for flush mounts.

No plate covers allowed at all, even clear ones.

[Jane Honda]

Thats exactly what Im talking about... I was watching a show on Speed channel about a month ago, and they were advertising these wierd clear license plate covers where it makes your plate visible only from directly infront of it...apparently some kind of detourant for those pesky "Red-light Cameras". They are available in autoparts stores everywhere....yet they are illegal to use. I seriously think that something should be done to hold autoparts companys responsible for selling illegal to use products.

[Fade]

I agree Mike, but at the same time, that would then make it so after market exhaust systems and such couldnt be sold either... those are techinically "for track use only"

[Asphalt Surfer]

Since you cant have blue lights what about those blue and red "Angel Eyes" that go around your headlights?
And integrated tail/brake light/turn signals? I think I read somewhere that your turn signals have to be a certain distance from each other.

[v8zman]

i would think the angel eyes go into same catagory as neon lights

[MEP1000]

Since you cant have blue lights what about those blue and red "Angel Eyes" that go around your headlights?
And integrated tail/brake light/turn signals? I think I read somewhere that your turn signals have to be a certain distance from each other.


Angel eyes would fall into same catagory as Neon lights. Especially red and blue ones as those colors are only for cops/fire people. Integrated tail/brake/turn signals should be fine...

[MEP1000]

I just read that Hotbodies racing is making colored flushmount turn signals. Be careful with that. Turn signals should be amber or red only. The ones in the add I saw where blue

[Jane Honda]

another good one. :thumbup: thanks for the heads up Michael!

[Need-4-Speed]

MEP You rock:rad: It's great to have someone that can help out with the Q&A for all of us. Thanx man :thumbup:

P.S. So I gess GREEN lights are out to.

[lobes]

Hey mike all those things that you are talking about (with the auto parts stores selling illegal items) are for "off road use only" and are usually clearly marked that way. A lot off those items are used in car shows and other such things that the owner of the vehicle does not have to obey the laws of the road.

[Rev. Fatty Bulger]

What about things to get you out of tickets?

[v8zman]

What about things to get you out of tickets?


boobs and a push up bra

[kneedragger26]

boobs and a push up bra

.....and all this time I thought it was honesty.....:lol:

[Rev. Fatty Bulger]

Boobs i've got :(

[Rex Raider]

doze bein a boob count. :yes: :lol:

[Willixer600]

What about "showing use of power of a vehicle"???? I got warned for that in my car... I was woundering if that applys to a bike???

[knowmad]

You can easily get a ticket for exhibition of speed on a motorcycle.

[v8zman]

unless u ride a kawi

i dont think they can exhibit anything

[Rev. Fatty Bulger]

unless u ride a kawi

i dont think they can exhibit anything

Bwahahahahaha

[MEP1000]

What about "showing use of power of a vehicle"???? I got warned for that in my car... I was woundering if that applys to a bike???

You can easily get a ticket for exhibition of speed on a motorcycle.


Yes you can get in trouble for showing your vehicles power. Instead of the old exhibition of speed, it been included in the new speed racing citation. You don't even have to be actually racing another driver/rider

[Jane Honda]

Yes you can get in trouble for showing your vehicles power. Instead of the old exhibition of speed, it been included in the new speed racing citation. You don't even have to be actually racing another driver/rider


:eek2: Are you KIDDING me??? I freakin love to stand on it, and feel it try to set me in the back seat... I don't even need other cars around when I start getting happy feet... Thats such a huge bummer!!!!


What good is all that power when you can't use it????:mecry:

[Flyte Risk]

That all goes back to the fact that you don't have to speed to get a ticket for "exhibition of speed". All you have to do is demonstrate the ability.

[Xusia]

That's about the lamest thing I've ever heard. Just sitting on the bike with the engine running could be considered "demonstrating the ability." I really despise laws written so poorly.

[kneedragger26]

unless u ride a kawi

i dont think they can exhibit anything


that cracks me up.:laughing:

[MEP1000]

That's about the lamest thing I've ever heard. Just sitting on the bike with the engine running could be considered "demonstrating the ability." I really despise laws written so poorly.

I'll be blunt here. Pull your head out of your ass. Sitting on your bike with the engine running in no way would be considered demonstration of speed. Give me a break. The law is well written and has about 6 sections to it. Its made to deal with the illegal street racers and people who endanger others lives

[MEP1000]

:eek2: Are you KIDDING me??? I freakin love to stand on it, and feel it try to set me in the back seat... I don't even need other cars around when I start getting happy feet... Thats such a huge bummer!!!!


What good is all that power when you can't use it????:mecry:


There are different ways to apply the law. There is simple hitting it and speeding vs lighting up the rear tire and leaving a cloud of smoke for blocks.. Don't read too much into the law.

[TOM-CAT]

Don't read...the law.
There it is ppl an officer of the court advized all of us to ignore all government authority.

If anyone needs me, Ill be down at the local ATM with a crowbar... :hysterical:

[lotsamtbottls]

There it is ppl an officer of the court advized all of us to ignore all government authority.

If anyone needs me, Ill be down at the local ATM with a crowbar... :hysterical:
lol tom!

[Spy007]

Ok, heres one for ya Mep!!!


How about if the bike has 0 side view mirrors... but instead has cameras mounted in the rear with 2 small LCD screens up front under the windscreen giving the rider his/her rear view? In essence is simulated mirrors... so would that be legal?

[TOM-CAT]

Ok, heres one for ya Mep!!!


How about if the bike has 0 side view mirrors... but instead has cameras mounted in the rear with 2 small LCD screens up front under the windscreen giving the rider his/her rear view? In essence is simulated mirrors... so would that be legal?

You get two tickets for that:
One for no mirrors, and one for watching TV while you ride.:help2:

[Spy007]

Guess it wouldnt be too bad of a show... considering its of you passin everyone! lol

[Kelbor]

Ok.....Not that Im a big fan of neon lights on anything except "COLD BEER" signs. First time i saw them on a motorcycle was on a R-1 on the freeway a few years back. He had the ground lights going and I was impressed. Like I said, I think the style sucks, but I saw the guy coming from hundreds of yards behind me - not because of his headlight but because of the blue glow. He passed me and i could easily see his plate and he was visible for quite a distance in front of me. I thought it was a great way to be super visible which is one of the best ways to avoid being hit on a scooter. What makes these neons illegal? I know laws are not written for no reason so what is the reason for this law?

[Fade]

I think it is because they tend to be the same color as emergency vehicle lights. So..yeah..they don't want people trying to imitate emergency vehicles or being mistaken for one.

[Spy007]

At night with my R1, the lights bounce slightly with the road and it tends to look like flashing blue lights. I kept freakin myself out thinkin a cop flipped em on behind me so i kept checkin the mirrors.

[v8zman]

u can have any color but red and blue,and no neons or whatever can be on while riding

[MEP1000]

Ya what he said

[v8zman]

i have been talked to many times about them

[Spy007]

how come they gotta take the cool colors?!?!?!

[v8zman]

hey mep are strobes illegal?

[MEP1000]

hey mep are strobes illegal?


I believe so. Like 99% positive

[v8zman]

well thats good,im gonna have blue led's and strobes

[MEP1000]

:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

[Spy007]

so really though... what about the camera's for mirrors thing?

[v8zman]

u gonna have the camera come on when u go into reverse too?

[MEP1000]

so really though... what about the camera's for mirrors thing?


You need mirrors. I think you could get away with it but you could get pinched if cop really wanted to

[Spy007]

suck!
lol :-)

[v8zman]

i would think it might be a smidge unsafe too

[Spy007]

how so?

Really... they would be safer considering they have a pretty wide viewing angle, arent blocked by elbows or anything gear related and can the screens can be mounted in an area that you are already checking regularly (as we are all taught in drivers ed) which is the speedo. Hell.... be really custom and mount them in your existing mirrors!

[Rex Raider]

:popcorn:

[Spy007]

:thinking: no no, whore thread is below....

[ArinSjorensen]

I didn't see it above so i'm gonna address it. Can your new stripper girlfriend sit backward in your tank [on a micro fiber cloth of course] so you can stick dollar bills in her gstring while going through twisties? This question has been burning in my mind since the 80's but was too afraid to ask

[v8zman]

seems as though your gonna fit in just fine here

[ArinSjorensen]

I'm truely honored. It's good to know i have the potential to fit in, if anyone has a nerdy sister out there that knows Oregon motocycle laws, I could use the tutoring.

[MarineHawk]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you have to have your headlight on during the day in Oregon...and you -may- use auxiliary lights as long as they're not brighter than your headlight. Does this mean running lights are not required?

[v8zman]

i dont think so

[TOM-CAT]

It has been my experience that not all bikes come equipped with running lights, so I would gander this is one of those situations were, if your bike came with them you are required to keep them.:idunno:
However, I really wouldn’t expect you will be hassled if you disable your running lights. In fact, I just installed some new turn signal on my bike, and disconnected my running lights. I felt it was really difficult to see that I had my turn signal on when the running light was also lighted.:shifty:

[MEP1000]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems you have to have your headlight on during the day in Oregon...and you -may- use auxiliary lights as long as they're not brighter than your headlight. Does this mean running lights are not required?


I used to think they were but I believe I was wrong. Main thing is to have the head light on at all times

[R1_PILOT]

Hi Mep, what about HID headlights on a bike?
Thanks

[MEP1000]

Hi Mep, what about HID headlights on a bike?
Thanks


You talking about regular type headlight thats just real bright?? Not blueish tint or anything like that right?

[v8zman]

what?dont tell me the blueish headlight are illegal too

[Jane Honda]

what?dont tell me the blueish headlight are illegal too


You wouldn't need to worry at all!!!! :wtf:

[MarineHawk]

What about turn signals that are 'E' marked (as in, European road legal) but say nothing about being DOT approved? I'm looking at a pair of Motrax Tinycators, love the smallness, styling etc, but can't find -any- information about them being DOT or not.

[Eric S]

Mr. MEP: What about radar detectors? AMA website sez there is no restriction in Oregon. Cars, too?

[MEP1000]

You can't get a ticket for having one. However your sh*t better be in order cause you might get one for everything else wrong :eek:

[Zoom]

Sir MEP,
Hypothetical situation...:yes:
My friend broke up with her ex and moved out. He later got insurance on her car for her, with his and her name on it (it's cheaper for her to be on his insurance then on her own). The insurance cards show his address. If she gets pulled over and the address on her insurance card doesn't match with the address on her license, will the officer give her a ticket? Is the insurance void because she doesn't live at his address? Oh and the car isn't in her name, it's in someone elses that has a different address then the ex. So the officer will be seeing 3 different addresses lol.

[Nicegy525]

it will definitely raise some eyebrows, but as long as the car is registered, insured and not reported stolen I highly doubt your "friend" can get a ticket.

[Zoom]

Thank you for your sage words of advice officer Niceguy.:laughing:

[MEP1000]

The Mep charges by the question. Your going to owe a lot. The Mep will have to think about this

[MEP1000]

Sir MEP,
Hypothetical situation...:yes:
My friend broke up with her ex and moved out. He later got insurance on her car for her, with his and her name on it (it's cheaper for her to be on his insurance then on her own). The insurance cards show his address. If she gets pulled over and the address on her insurance card doesn't match with the address on her license, will the officer give her a ticket? Is the insurance void because she doesn't live at his address? Oh and the car isn't in her name, it's in someone elses that has a different address then the ex. So the officer will be seeing 3 different addresses lol.


:yell: :twofinger: :confused: :help2:

[MEP1000]

Most officers will have cell phones and can call and verify that the insurance is still valid. However that stuff all needs to be fixed asap

[Zoom]

What needs to be fixed? Is it against the law to make payments to a person for a car you drive? Is it against the law to be named on someone elses insurance for the vehicle you drive?:confused:

Guess I'm gonna owe you alot.

[MEP1000]

Just need to make sure your name is in fact on that insurance. Lots of people will say that, then when insurance agency is called we find out its not true.

[Zoom]

Hypothetically my friends name is typed on the insurance card, the address on the card just doesn't match her address.

[Mr.Demise]

It don't matter zoom, your going to jail anyway! LOL
Some big 300lb girl is just wait for your crimanl azz to get there LOL

[Zoom]

It don't matter zoom, your going to jail anyway! LOL
Some big 300lb girl is just wait for your crimanl azz to get there LOL

:lol:thanks for the support!:twofinger:

[Nicegy525]

they call her Jenny

[NinjaKitty]

Is there such a thing as getting a ticket for whoring too much ?

[Zoom]

LOL not online. I don't know about reality. If your a prostitute yeah

[NinjaKitty]

LOL not online. I don't know about reality. If your a prostitute yeah
:lol: :lol: Ah, yeah....um .me nope...But seriously :lol: :lol:

[ChrisCunt]

What happened to this thread? I skipped a few pages and holy $#!T

I was going to ask MEP1000 about a decible limit with aftermarket exhaust. With the itroduction to all the new GP series exhaust they seem to be getting louder and louder. What does the law state with after market exhaust?

[MEP1000]

Legally speaking all after market exhausts are illegal. As far as how loud they can be that would be more up the noise compliance officers alley. I really don't know what the limit is. Wish could help more.

[Zoom]

Legally speaking:blah-blah:

Your a Sergeant now, you should know this whether it's up your alley or not :moon:

:yes: :wave Love ya!

[MEP1000]

O I should huh :crazy: :freakout Somehow The Mep is not feeling this falls under job description!!

Hugs and Kisses tiny :yes:

[Jane Honda]

Legally speaking:blah-blah:

Your a Sergeant now, you should know this whether it's up your alley or not :moon:

:yes: :wave Love ya!


He should know about alleys... :haha:

[kumaclimber]

i know neons are a sick bird but what about amber accent lighting and one more what about the led based clear frame sliders if they are amber can you wire them as blinkers

[Ridders015]

Hey so i got a ticket for 87 in a 65 on I5 the other day. I didnt even know I could get the ticket being behind a cop. I was at least a few car lengths back and he was cruising in the fast lane passing people so I just jumped in and kept up. He gets over so i slow down and pass at 70 . Pulls me over and tells me hes sighting me for 87 in a 65 because he was going 87 when I was following him. I asked if he was just basing my speed off his spedometer or did he radar me and he just responded with I have a certified spedometer..


any way out of this?

[MarinesBiatch]

That's BULL$HIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would take that one to court!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (You just struck a cord with me......) I F-ING HATE police officers that pull that.... If he's speeding that badly, then everyone else shouldn't be able to get in trouble for it. I'm annoyed..... DEFINITELY take that one to court!!!!!!

[Ridders015]

He actually said he kept speeding up because I was riding his tail. Im not dumb enough to ride a cops ass so thats a lame excuse. Definitely taking it to court though.

[MarinesBiatch]

That just means he's intimidated by motorcycles, and shouldn't be on the road!! Idiot. Grr...... I'm a law and justice major at CWU, and I can't tell you how mad that makes me.

[YAMR6]

He actually said he kept speeding up because I was riding his tail. Im not dumb enough to ride a cops ass so thats a lame excuse. Definatley taking it to court though.


I once got a ticket going 15 over and I was going over because I looked back after changing lane to see a truck barreling at me....he didn't look like he was going to slow either. I waited tell the last minute then punched it. At the time I had a car to my right and on coming traffic....I had no place to go but be slammed into or lay the foot down. So, I get around the traffic, turned to the right lane and slowed. He starts to pass me, then I see the lights. Yep, he continues to drive off speeding and I get nailed with a ticket.

Now to my point. I went to court and the judge tells me, someone tail gating you is no reason to speed. :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: Oh, did I want to kick the sh!t out of that judge!!

[MarinesBiatch]

Judge is an idiot. I would've appealed! :haha:

[TOM-CAT]

Hey so i got a ticket for 87 in a 65 on I5 the other day. I didnt even know I could get the ticket being behind a cop. I was at least a few car lengths back and he was cruising in the fast lane passing people so I just jumped in and kept up. He gets over so i slow down and pass at 70 . Pulls me over and tells me hes sighting me for 87 in a 65 because he was going 87 when I was following him. I asked if he was just basing my speed off his spedometer or did he radar me and he just responded with I have a certified spedometer..


any way out of this?

(I am not a lawyer. This is just my opinion, and this post is for education purposes only. This is not legal advice.)

This is a clear case of police entrapment. Your actions were as a direct result of the actions of the officer. If the officer had not been speeding, you would not have been speeding. He should have, however, ticketed you for tailgating, if that was in fact, what he said you were doing. Was there an opportunity for the officer to get into the right lane while you were following him? If the officer could have yielded to the faster moving traffic (you), he was legally obligated to do so. He should not have continued to increase his speed as a result of your tailgating him, if that is what he is using to justifying his speed. Oregon law does not have an exemption, that would allow a motorist to speed up to avoid a tailgater. You should go in front of the judge and explain that you were following the police officer at a legal distance, and basing your speed off of his. If he was illegally speeding and you were just following his example, then this is a case of police entrapment. You trusted that a law enforcement officer would abide by all applicable traffic safety laws, and thus were coerced into unwittingly committing a traffic offence.

[MarinesBiatch]

(I am not a lawyer. This is just my opinion, and this post is for education purposes only. This is not legal advice.)

This is a clear case of police entrapment. Your actions were as a direct result of the actions of the officer. If the officer had not been speeding, you would not have been speeding. He should have, however, ticketed you for tailgating, if that was in fact, what he said you were doing. Was there an opportunity for the officer to get into the right lane while you were following him? If the officer could have yielded to the faster moving traffic (you), he was legally obligated to do so. He should not have continued to increase his speed as a result of your tailgating him, if that is what he is using to justifying his speed. Oregon law does not have an exemption, that would allow a motorist to speed up to avoid a tailgater. You should go in front of the judge and explain that you were following the police officer at a legal distance, and basing your speed off of his. If he was illegally speeding and you were just following his example, then this is a case of police entrapment. You trusted that a law enforcement officer would abide by all applicable traffic safety laws, and thus were coerced into unwittingly committing a traffic offence.

I agree with TOM-CAT 100%!!!!!!!!!!!! I was just about to pull out my law books and look it up myself, but he said exactly what I was thinking.... :thumbup:

PLEASE let me know what the outcome is..... I am so curious.

[TOM-CAT]

...I was just about to pull out my law books and look it up myself, but he said exactly what I was thinking....

But I am not a law book. :haha: I think you should still look it up, and let us know what you find. :thumbup:

[MarinesBiatch]

Haha... You sounded official enough!! ;)

I really think you're right on, though. No more comments from this part of the peanut gallery. :)

[Flyte Risk]

Case in point. A Beaverton police officer was recently cited by photo radar speeding in her MARKED cruiser. The DA prosecuted saying that she wasn't heading to a call so she had to obey all traffic laws.

Now that being said, if the officer was in front and violating the same law they cited you for I'd be in court. You may get the short end of the stick but I'd take my chances with the judge.

[Ridders015]

(I am not a lawyer. This is just my opinion, and this post is for education purposes only. This is not legal advice.)

This is a clear case of police entrapment. Your actions were as a direct result of the actions of the officer. If the officer had not been speeding, you would not have been speeding. He should have, however, ticketed you for tailgating, if that was in fact, what he said you were doing. Was there an opportunity for the officer to get into the right lane while you were following him? If the officer could have yielded to the faster moving traffic (you), he was legally obligated to do so. He should not have continued to increase his speed as a result of your tailgating him, if that is what he is using to justifying his speed. Oregon law does not have an exemption, that would allow a motorist to speed up to avoid a tailgater. You should go in front of the judge and explain that you were following the police officer at a legal distance, and basing your speed off of his. If he was illegally speeding and you were just following his example, then this is a case of police entrapment. You trusted that a law enforcement officer would abide by all applicable traffic safety laws, and thus were coerced into unwittingly committing a traffic offence.

Haha wow. Thanks for the advice. really appreciate it. Ill let you all know how it goes. court is a month from now though.

[Ridders015]

Since I got so much input with that does anyone know about wreckless driving tickets?.. I was riding downtown with a buddy and from a stop sign he pulled a wheelie for a couple blocks. unfortunatley there was a cop in between so he saw it all. pulled him over and gave him a 6000 something wreckless driving ticket. Is there anyway to fight that one or is his best hope getting it dropped to careless driving? Whats the fine on something like that usually end up? haha his bikes not worth $6000.. Oh . . they let him ride it away too. no impound?

[MarinesBiatch]

Odd.... Careless he might get away with. But this really isn't within my knowledge.... Sorry! :(

[Flyte Risk]

Tell him to sell his bike and buy a honda Spree. If all he got was a reckless the cop was being nice.

[MarinesBiatch]

NO NO NO!!!! Have him buy a RUCKUS!!!!!!!!!!!! Just not a Big Ruckus, cuz then he'll prolly still get in trouble!! :haha:

[Ridders015]

Tell him to sell his bike and buy a honda Spree. If all he got was a reckless the cop was being nice.

haha i dont know that he would go for a spree. . But thats kinda what I was thinking .. he had to fly by him at 50.

[TOM-CAT]

Since I got so much input with that does anyone know about wreckless driving tickets?.. I was riding downtown with a buddy and from a stop sign he pulled a wheelie for a couple blocks. unfortunatley there was a cop in between so he saw it all. pulled him over and gave him a 6000 something wreckless driving ticket. Is there anyway to fight that one or is his best hope getting it dropped to careless driving? Whats the fine on something like that usually end up? haha his bikes not worth $6000.. Oh . . they let him ride it away too. no impound?



If he got a reckless driving charge, he should be able to request a jury trial. With that as his leverage, he should be able to plea it down to a careless driving charge. He would want to contact the DA before hand, and have the charges commuted before he goes in front of a judge. This would most easily be handled by a lawyer, the DA would rather not deal directly with a defendant.

Careless should be around a couple hundred, add any lawyer fees on top of that.

:2cents:

(Again, I am not a lawyer. This is just my opinion, and this post is for education purposes only. This is not legal advice.)

[snkkpr01]

I don't see the wheelie ticket going any where. 12 of your peers does not mean 12 guys that ride sportbikes.

If your buddy ahs the chance, he can just talk to the judge and see if the charges can be lowered. I know that in Eugene, they can't lower the price of the ticket. Not sure if they can change the charges though.

I know that if you light up your tires in CA,AZ, or NV you can get all of these charges.

Exhibition of speed.
Speeding
Recklace driving
recklace endangerment ( if there are people in the car. a charge for ea.)
littering ( in CA, its for the rubber )

To me it is just not worth the head ache anymore. I got rid of the fast car and ride a BUELL. Plenty of torque, Tire just costs too much.

Darin

[THOE]

Unless you can have four or five people show up to court and say it was not him you are out of luck. If a police officer sees you with your front wheel off the ground and shows up to court you are done.

There are several things you can do if your driving record is clean. Ask if you can do comunity service or go take a rider safety course with Team Oregon. Or ask to speak to the officer and see if you can work something out.

I new a guy that got a reckless driving ticket on his bike and got out of it by having seven of his friends show up to court and say that he was not reckless driving. Due to all of the different stories the judge threw it out.

[CrazyCal]

Ok, I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but about the neons thing... Could you have some small lighting inside the fairing by the engine or would that qualify the same as having neons underneath the bike? There would be no visible bulbs and only a small glow being seen in the vents.


On another note: Are you required to have reflectors on the rear or does the taillight itself qualify? They have those small red ones for the licence plate holes at cycle gear. Do those count?

Again. Apologies for the newb questions.

[Jane Honda]

Ok, I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but about the neons thing... Could you have some small lighting inside the fairing by the engine or would that qualify the same as having neons underneath the bike? There would be no visible bulbs and only a small glow being seen in the vents.


On another note: Are you required to have reflectors on the rear or does the taillight itself qualify? They have those small red ones for the licence plate holes at cycle gear. Do those count?

Again. Apologies for the newb questions.

I believe having lights are ok, but you can't have blue ones. I mean, you CAN have blue ones, but not on while your actually riding down the street.

[TOM-CAT]

Ok, I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but about the neons thing... Could you have some small lighting inside the fairing by the engine or would that qualify the same as having neons underneath the bike? There would be no visible bulbs and only a small glow being seen in the vents.


The law limits emitting light, not just having the light bulb visible. So to emit anything other than yellow or white light from the front or side of the vehicle is a ticket-able offence. You could try running another color, other than yellow or white, but the no-no-colors are blue, red, and green. That pretty much makes up the whole color spectrum. So you could try to be sneaky, by running purple lights. But the LEO can say they looked blue, or red, either one not allowed.

I would play it safe. Have whatever color lights you want, just don't run them while you are operating the vehicle.


On another note: Are you required to have reflectors on the rear or does the taillight itself qualify? They have those small red ones for the licence plate holes at cycle gear. Do those count?

All of your reflectors are required by law, and only the OEM reflectors are 100% legal (DOT approved original equipment). Anything that you buy, after the fact, will look legit, but are not 100% legal. Will most LEOs care, if you don't have reflectors. Probably not. However, if someone rear-ends your parked motorcycle on the side of the road, in low light conditions, they could argue that because your bike did not have the required OEM reflectors, your bike was a hazard, and you are partially, or even fully, responsible for the damages to his/her vehicle. That is not to say they would win a legal case against you, but it could be a major headache.

BTW: I took all of the reflectors off of my Thundercat when I first got it. Never heard a peep about it from the one LEO that pulled me over. The R6 I got earlier this year has all of its reflectors, and I have no plans to remove them (keeping things stock with this bike).

:2cents:

Cheers

[naffle]

What needs to be fixed? Is it against the law to make payments to a person for a car you drive? Is it against the law to be named on someone elses insurance for the vehicle you drive?:confused:

Guess I'm gonna owe you alot.


Lemme answer this.. You have to have an insurable interest in the vehicle that you insure. So if you insure a car that you are not titled on, nor that you have care, custody and control, you better hope that your insurance company does not find out. If there's claim, and they pay out on it, you can be sued for the amount paid and your insurance will be cancled. Not to mention most insurance carriers have what's called a current carrier database where if you run a quote for someone and give permissions to run consumer reports, your previous insurance companies can be found. There may be a flag that you were cancelled or non renewed for fraud. BIG no no.

[Zoom]

Lemme answer this.. You have to have an insurable interest in the vehicle that you insure. So if you insure a car that you are not titled on, nor that you have care, custody and control, you better hope that your insurance company does not find out. If there's claim, and they pay out on it, you can be sued for the amount paid and your insurance will be cancled. Not to mention most insurance carriers have what's called a current carrier database where if you run a quote for someone and give permissions to run consumer reports, your previous insurance companies can be found. There may be a flag that you were cancelled or non renewed for fraud. BIG no no.

Well now the title is in my friends name, the insurance that their ex carries on the car has my friends name on it, the insurance just shows the ex's address instead of my friends address.

[naffle]

Well now the title is in my friends name, the insurance that their ex carries on the car has my friends name on it, the insurance just shows the ex's address instead of my friends address.


So the insurance on the car is in someone's name who is not titled on the vehicle and that does not have regular use of the car (no care/custody/control) AND the garaging address on the car is in another household. It's a buggered situation anyway you look at it, that can be potentially messy for everyone.

The person who legally owns the car can be held liable for anything she does in the car.

The person who carries the insurance on the car can be screwed REALLY bad because any chargable accidents will cause the rates to go up, and if there's a loss that's claimed on that car by the person carrying the insurance and it's found they do not have a insurable interest in the car (basically a financial interest in the car, it's something they would suffer a financial hardship if there's a loss) they could be in trouble for insurance fraud.

I'd be curious which insurance company this is that allowed it. I'm not going to tattle to anyone. As far as I understood things, you have to be living in the household to be insured on the policy. Since the vehicle isn't in the household, and isn't titled in the person who has the policy's name.. it can get very very ugly. I hope the person who's driving the car is someone that you friend trusts A LOT! That's just not a place I want to be!

[MA$TER_E]

FYI - 76 on I-84 will get you one of these...

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm287/land6266/Public%20Share/Speeding.jpg

[mfrankpdx]

I'm almost at 50k miles and haven't even been pulled over yet. I'm sorry, I don't know what my secret is. :(

[JonXX]

Heh, I have the opposite problem. I'm a cop magnet. I get pulled over once a month on average (no matter what I'm driving). Only ever had 3 citations in my life, but they just gotta contact me for some reason. Last guy to pull me over was an Oklahoma State Trooper that had never seen a Blackbird in person and just wanted to talk about bikes :lol:

[Jane Honda]

I'm almost at 50k miles and haven't even been pulled over yet. I'm sorry, I don't know what my secret is. :(


Yeah, knock on his wood, I have only been written up twice in my life. :yes:

[TOM-CAT]

Heh, I have the opposite problem. I'm a cop magnet. I get pulled over once a month on average (no matter what I'm driving). Only ever had 3 citations in my life, but they just gotta contact me for some reason. Last guy to pull me over was an Oklahoma State Trooper that had never seen a Blackbird in person and just wanted to talk about bikes :lol:

:laughing: Awesome.

[YAMR6]

Yeah, knock on his wood, I have only been written up twice in my life. :yes:

:wtf: Who's wood are you knocking on??

[Jane Honda]

:wtf: Who's wood are you knocking on??



The Handsome Storm Troopers!

[JonXX]

I'll bet he's glad he's not a power ranger anymore

[MA$TER_E]

I'll bet he's glad he's not a power ranger anymore

:idunno:

I think I've always looked more like the spawn of a white power ranger and storm trooper...

[YAMR6]

:idunno:

I think I've always looked more like the spawn of a white power ranger and storm trooper...

I just think your spawn!:squid:

[Jane Honda]

Keep your spawns to yourself!!!!! :wtf:





*starts mopping the thread floor*

[MA$TER_E]

:haha:

[MarineHawk]

Apparently, CHPs now let you off for 93 in a 65. So yeah. Hooray. Which makes this something you -don't- get a ticket for...but whatever.

[JonXX]

Apparently, CHPs now let you off for 93 in a 65. So yeah. Hooray. Which makes this something you -don't- get a ticket for...but whatever.

But you'll be cited for 85 in a 65 because you're impeding the flow of traffic.

[sixteenvalve]

Luckily, I have never been pulled over in Cali. I did get a ticket down by grants pass though for 84 in a 65 :(

[MarinesBiatch]

Apparently, CHPs now let you off for 93 in a 65. So yeah. Hooray. Which makes this something you -don't- get a ticket for...but whatever.

:yell: You told me it was only 83!!!! :shifty::mad::frusterated:

[MA$TER_E]

83 - 93, it all looks the same to me... :cool:

[BadRepp66]

At least you can split lanes (legally) in California. I got pulled over in Oregon by a trooper for doing that right after I moved there but he was cool when I explained where I was from, that it was legal and he did NOT give me a ticket. Lucky me.

[BadRepp66]

83 - 93, it all looks the same to me... :cool:

Absolutely, 83, 93, 103, 203, heck it's all good.

[MarinesBiatch]

:wife:

[MA$TER_E]

:haha:

[fz6rgurl]

Ive never been bothered by cops and I have lighting in my headlight and the "power crystal" is what I call it... Blue and pink!

http://www.oregonsportbike.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=19&pictureid=133

But with the bike on, it dims it out quite a bit. But i've never been bothered. Showed it off to sheriffs here in town and they don't say anything besides "That's so cool!!!!"

http://www.oregonsportbike.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=19&pictureid=132

[YAMR6]

Nice mod

[JonXX]

Don't come to this side of the cascades with that setup...And Bob help you if you roll through Salem with it. You'll prolly go to jail the way those fucktards are.

[fz6rgurl]

I actually had to go too Salem/Keizer last summer for a softball tournament. But I didn't see any cops to bug me. And I could always turn them off too. That's the nice part :-).

[DrDuc]

Don't come to this side of the cascades with that setup...And Bob help you if you roll through Salem with it. You'll prolly go to jail the way those fucktards are.

I would never run any type of blue light on one of my vehicles. That's like begging to get cited for impersonating a police officer.

[JonXX]

And I could always turn them off too. That's the nice part :-).

Ah, good on ya for having them on a separate switch.

Cuz, What DrDuc Said.