Lucky survivor

[EQu]

I was coming back home with a bunch of people from the ranch- we were coming back from picking up a new horse and stopped at In and Out for something to eat. Two of us got over to an outside table and after about a minute, I hear the loud engine revving of a motorcycle. I turned around in annoyance because, honestly, it's really freakn annoying, particularly because I could tell from the noise that the riders were popping wheelies, which again is very annoying in a public and busy place, and I look at the riders and right when I do, I see one of the rider's bikes flip out from underneath him while pulling this stunt and flying out and sliding and the rider is pushed in the opposite direction, bouncing, fumbling and sliding on the ground completely helpless. To my surprise, he got up as soon as his body stopped moving and went over to his bike. His buddy that was in front of him came back around and they pulled over to the center turn lane.

The reason I'm telling you this, and I'm sure you guys will gang up on me because I'm not a biker and never will be and I probably don't understand the power you guys feel when you're riding, is that you guys need to stop feeling so ****ing invensible. I mean, if you want to start pulling stunts, do it when there is no one else around or in a safe environment but don't pull that crap in public or with cars or even other bikers behind you. That man is so lucky he is alive and is even more lucky that there weren't any cars coming up behind him. If his buddy was coming up behind him and he crashed, his buddy would have ran right into him and be in the same position. I'm just so astonished of the attitude a lot of bikers have- that nothing will happen to them because they're good riders and "have so much control over the bikes." It's kind of like having sex in highschool and knowing one of your closest friends got pregnant even though she was on birth control and saying "oh, it won't happen to me" because it can and the possibility increases when you convince yourself of that.

I'm not dissing bikers as a whole, just the ones who are convinced that nothing can happen and do stupid, mindless tricks in a place that isn't suited for it such as the one that that man did today.

I wish all of you an eternity of safe rides and I do pray that you will take your surroundings and your very life into consideration before you pull stunts like this.

[Nicegy525]

buddy youre preaching to the choir here. I can assure you there are none of those type of riders on this forum!! :idunno:

[Jane Honda]

Hey, Equ. You need to chill. Us "BIKERS" have things we like to do, and we accept the concequences with our actions. Our horses can do horrid things to us as well, and they have minds of their own. Bikes do not.


So, get off your high 'horse' and realise we do what we do because we love it. No matter what bad things may happen. Hell, we could get hit by a car just crossing the street. Just be glad that they were doing the stunting in an enclosed area.


And, yes, I am irritated by this thread. :yell:

[EQu]

... but they weren't doing the stunting in an enclosed area. They were doing it in the middle of the street, coming out of a stop light in a very busy place. I've seen someone do crap like that on the freeway, too, and it scared the living **** out of a lot of the drivers.

And like I said before, I don't care who's irritated by the thread. Stunts in public effect the people around the one doing the Stunts- especially if the stunt fails.

[lotsamtbottls]

out of curiosity, if you dont ride a bike, why are you a member of this site? :confused:

also... riding a bike is just the same as driving a car in the sense that it is an accepted risk. same with riding horses, like Jane said. any activity you participate in (short of channel-surfing) includes some sort of risk that you are willing to take in stride purely so that you may be a part of the things you love. if someone is speeding in their car, its a risk to them and those around them. if someone tailgates, its highly likely that there will be an accident because of it. if you ride hunter/jumpers, its a great risk that you will fall and be hurt. all it takes is one split second, and you can be injured. then you have multiple other drivers that have to swerve around your car, or you have a loose horse who is probably frightened... god knows what else. just because someone stunts does not mean that they are a greater risk to those around them than anyone else on the road. if they hurt themselves, bummer... but they cant honestly say "i never knew that could happen to me"... ask anyone who rides. we all know that we could get hurt, we know that it could very well be the fault of a rider in our group. **** happens. but you cant single out stunters alone and blame them for safety issues.

[Jane Honda]

She is here because of Mike. EQU, give it up.



You would feel the same way if someone went on your horse forum and said that riding horses was dangerous, and that jumpers or 3 day riding was dangerous and stupid.

[MEP1000]

Kris its past your bed time. Go to sleep :yes:

[Jane Honda]

Kris its past your bed time. Go to sleep :yes:


I can't get back to sleep... :crying: Will you sing me a lullaby?

[Rev. Fatty Bulger]

I can't do a wheelie yet.

I wouldn't do one in traffic anyway.

[Jane Honda]

Okay, Ive given this enough thought, and now its time for my :2cents:.

First, I agree with what EQu says, and that certain motorcycling activities should be reserved for certain places and conditions. To make my point; You wouldnt take a horse into traffic and start jumping over cars just for "Fun". BUT there is something to be said for the absolute control needed over a bike to even be able to DO things like that "Successfully". (which that rider apparently didnt do) ie: Throttle control for getting into and maintaining a wheelie, Breaking control for stoppies, etc...
As far as the drivers around that rider being scared...I lived in California where "Lane Splitting" is legal. If you dont know what lane splitting is, its where you are allowed to go between two rows of cars to get through traffic. Obvioudsly you dont want to do this unless you can do it safely. Aparently there is a rather LARGE contingent of "Cagers" that dont approve of this at all souly because it "Scares them" when a bike that comes "Out of nowhere" goes past their door that closely. And to that, I say, "Why weren't you paying attention to your surroundings while driving that 5 ton SUV, Mr. Cager, or Mrs. SoccerMom?" But then again, we are talking about the diffrence between Legal and Illegal activities. I guess wheelies in traffic would come under the "Illegal" activities section, and the long arm of the law would be more than willing to reach out and nab you for "Opperating a motor vehicle in an unsafe manner", or "Reckless Driving", or one of the other many legal terms they can use. (Ask MEP) And to that I say that Driving a vehicle in an unsafe manner is relative and undefined. In other words, Mr. Longarmofthelaw, just because YOU cant do it, doesnt mean that IM being unsafe when I do it. But that all comes down to changing the law, which Im way to much of a lazy american to even attempt to do, AND the government makes too much revenue off of those individules that choose to break that "Law", to ever allow it to be changed. History shows that individules that try to take revenue out of the governments coffers tend to end up mysteriously face down in a ditch. But thats another discussion all together.
To sum this long winded spiel up, I can absolutely appreciate those that have that much control over a two wheeled machine and can perform those skills. Some of you have more control while on one wheel than most of us have on two wheels while sitting at a stop sign. :thumbup: :thumbup:'s up! But be careful and TRY to save it for a nice empty industrial park where "Other" obsticles wont get in your way.
And to the "Cagers" that get Scared, I say "Pay attention to your surroundings, and you wont get scared.":squid:

[Rev. Fatty Bulger]

I'm changing my response to what Mike said.

[Jane Honda]

I'm changing my response to what Mike said.

Thats wierd. :thinking: You ACTUALLY understood any of that? :wtf:

[MEP1000]

I can't get back to sleep... :crying: Will you sing me a lullaby?


:naughty: Same one as last time???? :yes:

[Jane Honda]

No matter what you say, I still think she has a lot of nerve posting this up, and then saying she has no intention of riding. It actually pisses me off. So, Equ, do you think you should still ride other peoples horses even tho you got a broken leg?

[Summer4ever]

"is that you guys need to stop feeling so ****ing invensible." (invincible)


Many of the people on this site are women, not guys. It's been my experience that people who ride do so for all kinds of reasons. Like all kinds of sports, I am sure there are a few riders that love to show off in front of people, and by doing so put their life and others in danger. I don't believe that reading a thread on a forum will do anything to change their behavior. From what I have seen most people that stunt do so in a place that is fairly safe and away from traffic. The ones that do really stupid things (and there are a few :squid: in Eugene for sure) are looked down upon by the rest of the group :shifty: